Are black men really bigger?

The data behind whether "black men [are] really bigger" is shakey.

There are websites such as the one below that have listed average erect length by country, which one could use to generalise by race, but one shouldn't, and I'll explain why later.

Average penis size by country: worldwide comparison

For example, in a country like Cameroon (which has a demographic profile of almost entirely Sub-Saharan African), you could theoretically use it as an example for black men and compare it to Korea (where the demographic profile is almost entirely ethic Korean) and so on and so forth, and say that by comparison, "black men [are] really bigger".

In fact, in this list, of the top 20 countries listed, 10 are have demographics where the majority are black.

However, to use this to draw a conclusion on the question at hand would be problematic. We don't know the source of this data, the number of participants, whether or not they self-reported their size, if they were classed by country of brith or by current nationality, or any other factor that would allow us to say with statistical certainty that it represents anything, not actual national averages and definitely not racial averages.

And in fact, there are numerous other studies that show that there is very little variability between average length and race.

Herbenick et al. for example, measured a variety of people in the US from different ethic backgrounds and race and found statistical differences in length on average of only 1 cm.

There was another study in Brazil where participants had to self identify as black or white and they were subsequently measured, instead of asked to self report length, and the researches found a difference in length, but it only amounted to just over 1cm. Anthropometric study of penile length in self-declared Brazilians regarding the color of the skin as white or black: The study of a Myth

It's difficult to say whether or not black men have larger penises on average, so we rely on anecdotal and self-observed 'evidence'. Also, there is the problem of bias, where we are subconsciously fed that black men are larger, and this is true in porn specifically. Is this a representation of reality? Probably not, but maybe.

In the end it's hard to say whether its true definitively as a very large scale study would need to be done, something I don't see ever happening, as the funding would need to be quite large, and let's face it, no one really cares enough to throw that much money at this question.
I'd say that to get a true size average would be nearly impossible since it appears to be almost always self reporting. I guess you could get a woman (or man) to do the measurement in a clinical setting but are there really researchers prepared to be in a room with man with the intention of measuring his erect penis? I'm not even sure I could get hard in such a setting unless the female researcher became involved and that seems highly unlikely. That leads us back to self reporting which is always problematic. In many case, I don't even think it's lying, more often size claims are self delusion.

As to averages based on country, I think that is also problematic. It's entirely possible the many black men have internalized this idea that they have larger penises and are more likely to embellish their numbers. I'm not saying whether this is true or not but I think it is a distinct possibility. If a culture puts a premium on penis size then I think it follows that the men are more likely to try and meet that standard, even if it means putting their thumbs on the scale.
 
What's also funny is the big black dick thing wasn't even started by blacks but by whites. In most black countries they are oblivious to the stereotype as I'm sure in Asian countries they are oblivious to their stereotype.
Yes my first experience as a person of color was when a white friend of mine whispered in my ear when I was young "All these white girls want your big black cock". I was mystified but now I know thanks to the internet.

 
It's entirely possible the many black men have internalized this idea that they have larger penises and are more likely to embellish their numbers.
So just black men are likely to embellish their self-reported numbers and no one else? No other race would fall victim to understanding the premium? No one else has heard "size matters"? You have a lot of posits to reach that conclusion.
 
So just black men are likely to embellish their self-reported numbers and no one else? No other race would fall victim to understanding the premium? No one else has heard "size matters"? You have a lot of posits to reach that conclusion.
Well, that's not even close to what I wrote but I appreciate the dialogue.
 
Well, that's not even close to what I wrote but I appreciate the dialogue.
Correct you didn't write. You didn't need to. You just implied it. "Thumb on the scale" has a pretty clear meaning.

We don't even need to go into how you need a hot chick in the room to get a good penis measurement.
 
Correct you didn't write. You didn't need to. You just implied it. "Thumb on the scale" has a pretty clear meaning.

We don't even need to go into how you need a hot chick in the room to get a good penis measurement.
I guess you hear what you want to hear. Good luck with that and have a great day.
 
All of my experiences with men of color have been with guys who were fairly average in size (as in 6" or so, not less). One guy had a long but really skinny dick and another guy, a Nigerian I met in Europe, was average in length but very thick. The only two massive cocks I've experienced was a white guy from Slovakia and a Brazilian guy I met in Florida.
 
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All of my experiences with men of color have been with guys who were fairly average in size (as in 6" or so, not less). One guy had a long but really skinny dick and another guy, a Nigerian I met in Europe, was average in length but very thick. The only two massive cocks I've experienced was a white guy from Slovakia and a Brazilian guy I met in Florida.
How big were the massive ones if you had to guess?
 
Only real black naked guys I’ve seen have been at the gym. Nothing too crazy but definitely longer on average compared to what I’ve seen in Hispanic white and Asians. Though the biggest real one I’ve seen was white. All flaccid so who really knows.
 
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Yes my first experience as a person of color was when a white friend of mine whispered in my ear when I was young "All these white girls want your big black cock". I was mystified but now I know thanks to the internet.
Yep, me too. The exact same. A guy said get your big black cock out , I had no idea what he was talking about until I saw Eddie murphy's "delirious" stand up show. And then I realised that's why everyone was watching me in the showers lol
 
As a light skin black who has been sexually sized up against dark skinned blacks and discriminated in the gay community, no, it wasn’t this bad back in the day.

It seemed to have gotten worse over the years, probably the gay media and porn industries is to blame, but as I got older and my cock actually got bigger, I attracted less bottoms and was passed up for darker skinned dudes whenever I had interaction with gays.

It got so bad, that I can’t even be around too many gays in a room at once, because they feed into these sexual stereotypes. I prefer low-key bisexual dudes these days as sexual companions.

And I’ve been with quite a few hung guys, the largest guy I was with (dick, balls, the whole nine) was white. The second largest guy I was with, was the first guy I picked up from a bar (who was half Latin / half Italian) when I just turned 21.
 
What's also funny is the big black dick thing wasn't even started by blacks but by whites. In most black countries they are oblivious to the stereotype as I'm sure in Asian countries they are oblivious to their stereotype.
yes more than a century ago they were even post cards with nude african men like they are different more like animals . you add to this for penis the exotic side. like the exotic side of beauty african women with nice shapes. a lot of clichés from a racist society
at least much more racist than now
even if some countries have still much racism sadly but the thing with size now is more .. a porn thing .. a buisness porn thing :D
 
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Do black men tend to have bigger, rounder and meatier butts than whites and Asians? Obviously true as it's something people can see even with clothes on. Now, do all black men have big butts? No. In fact there are many who are flat-assed. But doesn't change the clearly evident fact that black men's butts tend to be bigger. And of course there are white men with rounder asses than the average black guy, but it's not the norm.

Same case can be applied to dicks. On average black men have bigger penises.
 
Same case can be applied to dicks. On average black men have bigger penises.
Provide some data with your generalizations. By that way of thinking, on average, black men are also over 6 feet tall and are basketball players as well.
 
Provide some data with your generalizations. By that way of thinking, on average, black men are also over 6 feet tall and are basketball players as well.

I can't provide data, which is why I gave the circumstancial example of butts, which also have no data. Everybody can see it even if they can't quote a study. I bet you would've have denied it if we couldn't see it through clothes. Same as dicks, stereotypes don't start out of thin air. Are Asian men generally shorter and skinnier than most other men? Sure. But you wouldn't know it from looking at sumo wrestlers.
 
I can't provide data, which is why I gave the circumstancial example of butts, which also have no data. Everybody can see it even if they can't quote a study. I bet you would've have denied it if we couldn't see it through clothes. Same as dicks, stereotypes don't start out of thin air. Are Asian men generally shorter and skinnier than most other men? Sure. But you wouldn't know it from looking at sumo wrestlers.
I actually don’t see it. And I can’t count how many dicks I’ve seen. It’s a lot, and a full spectrum too: out of all the guys I’ve been with, the black dudes, darker than me (keep in mind who you are speaking too, a black dude also) were NOT the most hung. That is experiential data.
 
No. The low sample size is not the only issue. And you know. But still keep pushing this ..

It would make sense to me that black men on average have a bigger flaccid penis and lower hanging balls. Because on average they live in a part of the world that is warmer. And no, I don’t have studies on this. And you don’t need to take my word for it either.
I can understand that living in a warmer climate might select for lower hanging balls as the whole point of external testes in mammals is so that their temperature is slightly below the core body temperature which is apprently important for the development of viable sperm cells. I don't see why a warmer climate would select for a longer flaccid penis length however and indeed southern China and south Asia in general have hot climates and are not populated by males with the reputation of having large flaccid penises. Long flaccid penises must be an adaptation to some other factor or factors besides equatorial climate.

I suspect that penis size, like secondary sexual characteristics such as hairy chests, facial hair, breast and hip size etc are strongly influenced by the preferences and interests of the opposite sex within specific cultural contexts. These contexts emerge as a reciprocal adaptation between human societies and the environment in which they live and the methods by which they amass the disposable agricultural surplus that allows them to survive as a group.

As an example, I have seen the theory expressed that blond hair developed in early scandinavian societies at a time of a huge sex ratio imbalance when there were many more women than men due to so many males being killed off young in war. Blond hair in women was a rather novel characteristic that enabled them to compete successfully for the attention and support of the limited supply of males according to this theory.
 
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