lol....Why do people get so sarcastic about look- alike questions?
A simple "Not to me" would suffice.
A simple "Not to me" would suffice.
Richard Madden (Robb Stark in GOT)
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I'd listen to that podcast but I wish I could see him.
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Sooo... why hasn't he come out yet? He doesn't have much of a career after GoT and his family seems to know already so what's the hold up? It can only benefit his career at this point
No career?? He literally won a golden globe last year. He is going to be one of the eternals in the next marvel phase. I think he’s doing ok. As for his sexuality, it’s not up to you to decide when he chooses to do it publicly. Just because you want him to, doesn’t mean he should.
"If celebrities didn't want people pawing through their garbage and saying they're gay, they shouldn't have tried to express themselves creatively"
- Homer Simpson.
- Homer Simpson.
And who are you to say that Richard should or shouldn't do? His coming out or non-coming out is not your business. And saying he doesn't have much of a career?! Plz he's been in many successful projects lately and won lots of awards and he's going to be in freaking Marvel films
There really is no need to get so defensive about someone you don't even know, but regardless
How do you think it looks like for all the kids and teenagers struggling with their sexuality to see an obviously gay celebrity denying it and hiding it so strongly? It ends up sending the message of "if X can't do it if he is rich and succesful because of fear of negative feedback and losing job offers, then what am I supposed to do?". Yes, you are all gonna reply "he is still a human being and how he manages his personal life it's his decision". Well, no. Pretty much how doctors have to give up their ethical believes when treating a patient, celebrities have to take into account how their decisions might influence their followers. It comes with the trade. It's harsh, but it is what it is.
Well, first off, there really can be no comparison between medical professionals who swear an oath and are trained with the express goal of serving other people...and actors. They don't get into this business to be role models or inspire kids. If a teenager doesn't feel ready to come out, it will probably have more to do with his own circumstances instead of the professional struggles of some working actor. Not to mention his work isn't targeted towards kids anyway.
Lastly, it's just common decency to not pressure someone to come out before they want to/are ready to. You (I hope) wouldn't do it to someone you know personally, so why apply a different standard here? Like it or not, it is his life and his decision to make, not ours.
Not entirely true. They are teenagers a lot of their decisions are influenced by the world around them. Just go and check Ricky Martin's IG for example. There are a lot of people commenting there how he helped them gain the courage to come out when he himself came out.
And I'm not pressuring anyone lmao I just asked an open question on a gay porn forum I did not fly to Madden's house and threatened him at gunpoint to come out. I respect that each person comes out in their own terms, but again he is not an average person he has millions of eyes on him, and I just find all of Hollywood and the actors to be extremely hypocritical to be promoting inclusivity so much these last years and yet they themselves are afraid to come out. Getting mixed messages here
There are plenty of out actors now that no one should be hanging the burden on any individual celebrity. Madden is not a big enough star for it make that much of a impact to little gaylings out there. He is not Tom Cruise or some other macho A lister where it would be shattering some stereotype of what gay men are like.
The resources to kids these days with an internet connection are endless. The first time I saw gay men being affectionate with one another was in porn. The second "that man is gay" was Rock Hudson who came out as both having AIDS and being gay at the same time. A most unfortunate mingling of disease with also stating who you truth self is.
What a marvel today must be like when you can see and hear thousands of LGBT voices and campaigns like "It gets better" that did not exist when I was coming of age. I would love it if every celebrity or person of esteemed public recognition was open about who they are, but there are so many out celebrities now (Does anyone even bother to read Out's 100 list anymore?) that someone like Madden being out or not is such a non-issue.
Better to apply that pressure to celebs who claim to be loving people who support/attend anti-LGBT churches and organizations. (Looking at your Beiber.)
Remove the reasons someone like Madden remains undeclared rather than pushing him directly.
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It's also important to realize that while it might be significant for Madden to come out symbolically, a man is not a symbol. He may not be ready to come out publicly, no matter how meaningful it might be. So while I would appreciate it, I don't think it's anyone's place but his own to decide when to make that move.
he is not at the peak of his career yet, at least not until his marvel film is really successful and he is not the main character in big hollywood blockbusters yet, Society is also sadly still not there yet - so a celebrity who comes out at the „beginning“ of his career has (unfortunately) no great career opportunities and not the same influence as a great moviestar people followed for years...
i understand what you mean, but i also think even if he wanted to, more people decide on his public announcements than just him! on the other hand, as long as an outing is referred to as a „scandal“ in trashy tabloids, i understand why, as a well-known celebrity, you want to keep your private life out of this kind of press
At this point he’s living in a glass closet. And it’s fine, because ultimately, it’s not our business and he doesn’t owe the public anything. We also don’t really know exactly what’s going on with his decision making or orientation. Yes, he’s likely had a couple of same-sex relationships. But we don’t really know how seriously he takes those relationships. We don’t know what type of trauma or fluidity he’s experienced. We don’t know what type of hetero pressures he’s experienced in the industry. And we don’t really know where he is in the romantic, sexual, affection, emotional, commitment spectrum. Trying to force or shame public figures to “come out” has always been problematic. While it’s not as if he’s gone entirely out of his way to hide anything.
It is a shame that we still don’t have leading males, potential A-lists, potential leads in big Hollywood productions who are unabashedly “gay”/unapologetically into his sex. But I wouldn’t want to place that pressure on one person. It would so be nice to get to the point where identity and sexual politics aren’t held in such high regard. It’d be nice to get to the place where people (particularly males) don’t feel so much social, ego and career pressures based on identity, sexuality, who they want commitments with, where they fit in the orientation spectrum. But once again, that’s not one person’s problem to resolve. While “queers” on social media who do nothing but speculate about people’s personal lives, push identity politics and/or try to shame people don’t make anything better.
It is a shame that we still don’t have leading males, potential A-lists, potential leads in big Hollywood productions who are unabashedly “gay”/unapologetically into his sex. But I wouldn’t want to place that pressure on one person. It would so be nice to get to the point where identity and sexual politics aren’t held in such high regard. It’d be nice to get to the place where people (particularly males) don’t feel so much social, ego and career pressures based on identity, sexuality, who they want commitments with, where they fit in the orientation spectrum. But once again, that’s not one person’s problem to resolve. While “queers” on social media who do nothing but speculate about people’s personal lives, push identity politics and/or try to shame people don’t make anything better.
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Just interested if Jonathan Bailey in Bridgerton is perhaps tiptoeing in to that A-List, big Hollywood production yet unabashedly gay position you mention. Americans weren’t that familiar with him, but I know he won a major British Tony Award equivalent last year and is quite prominently known there? In a way, I could see a Brit being the first one to do that, it seems similar to the past when Ian McCellan and Derek Jacobi were some of the first actors to come out and they maintained or grew their careers despite that showing it could be done and leading the way for others to become out actors. Bridgerton seems to have been universally and internationally embraced, praised and promoted and he has been singled out for his role and playing a heterosexual, while at the same time being almost flamboyantly publicly gay.
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He doesn't have a career? He's the new leading man of Marvel!! He's also a golden globe winner. Are you crazy?
It's just a matter of time before some things start to leak. There's a story on DL about him doing blowjobs in the bathrooms of clubs, and this:
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Could be a lie? of course, but I think he did some naughty things in the past and the gay circle of Glasgow knows about it. (this story is from the past and not in the date we see there, Richard was quarantined with Froy in May)
Could be a lie? of course, but I think he did some naughty things in the past and the gay circle of Glasgow knows about it. (this story is from the past and not in the date we see there, Richard was quarantined with Froy in May)
