Coronavirus Covid-19

victoria/australia6 mil plus,same as nz
14 days of lockdown
incl 800 deaths last year cv

doing well australia/world huh
dont tell me mental health is all cool with folk with that much lockdown
this one,less than 39 people
popilace vrtually akkowing themselves to be mahipulated


wacho,without the jacko
talking victorians.reflrcting on all australia
reflectig on the world
as bad as the worst countriws
 
earned to count.


A cell (red) infected with SARS-CoV-2 virus particles (yellow). (NIAID)
Coronavirus variants given Greek names
When researchers in South Africa spotted a highly mutated strain of coronavirus in late 2020, they called it 501Y.V2. Other naming schemes have called the same variant B.1.351, 20H/501Y.V2 and GH/501Y.V2. Media outlets often describe it as ‘the South African variant’. To cut the confusion and avoid geographical stigmas, everyone should now call it ‘Beta’, according to a naming scheme announced by the World Health Organization. The names, taken from the Greek alphabet, are not intended to replace scientific labels, but could serve as a useful shorthand for policymakers, the public and other non-experts. “If people use it, it will become the default,” says virologist Jeremy Kamil.

Nature | 4 min read


not to early,but a reality

or

shades of eurozone greek crisis
been in our lives fpr 12 years plus sigh
jjust as well we are magnificent creatures to cope with lifes most important of
 
I really worry about those who haven't got the shot because of a legit medical condition,
Just how many of them are there? I'm really not aware of any reports of any - unless you had a bad reaction to the first vaccine?
 
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An employee works at a lab at the Spanish pharmaceutical company PharmaMar — which developed plitidepsin, a potential COVID-19 drug — in Colmenar Viejo, Spain January 26, 2021. Susana Vera/Reuters


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Researchers are hopeful that new antiviral drugs in the pipeline could reduce COVID hospitalizations and save lives. Right now, remdesivir is the only antiviral authorized for use against COVID-19, but its effectiveness is limited. Two emerging drugs — both still in clinical trials — could outperform remdesivir and offer a contingency plan for unvaccinated people, especially those in countries that are lagging behind in the race to vaccinate their populations.

Fully vaccinated but feeling sick? You might need to get a COVID test. If you have COVID symptoms, you could have COVID. Even if that test comes back positive, it’s unlikely that you’ll develop a severe or fatal case of the disease. Still, getting tested is important —it helps local health officials keep track of outbreaks, and lets you know to self-isolate in order to protect vulnerable people in your community.

Don’t rely on antibody tests to confirm your protection after you’ve gotten your COVID vaccine. Some vaccinated people mistakenly believe that the test is a useful tool to check how effective their vaccines are, but experts say it doesn’t paint a full picture. While antibody tests are useful for identifying prior infections among people who have had COVID-19 in the past, they can’t tell you much about your body’s immune response to the vaccine.

To prevent the next pandemic, experts say we need to focus on monitoring disease “hot spots.” The current prevention model rests on the idea that health care professionals will sound the alarm when infected patients show up to their hospitals, according to the Conversation. But taking a more proactive approach — like surveilling places where zoonotic diseases, or pathogens that jump from animals to humans, are likely to most emerge — could save lives in the long run.

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“Pandemic misery” has declined over time, but 80 percent of Americans have reported experiencing significant hardship since it began. That’s according to the U.S. Pandemic Misery Index, which aims to quantify the extreme challenges — like financial and food insecurity or psychological distress — that people across the United States have endured since the pandemic began. Black and Latino people reported experiencing those challenges at higher rates, and were also more likely to know someone who died from COVID.

The emotional toll of the pandemic has also had a significant impact on children. One large hospital system in Colorado is calling it a “state of emergency": Adolescents are experiencing high rates of anxiety, depression and self-harm. Suicide is now the leading cause of death for children over the age of 10 in the state.

Public health experts consider grief a pandemic within the pandemic. Many people who lost loved ones over the past year are still processing their grief and trauma as the country continues to reopen. Pandemic precautions largely prevented families from holding funerals to honor those they lost, and many did not get a chance to say goodbye in person. For some, celebrating the pandemic’s end feels both premature and “insulting to their loved ones’ memories,” according to Kaiser Health News.

Ask the science desk:

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that people get vaccinated even if they’ve already been infected with COVID-19, to increase the chance of protection. But if you’re currently sick with the disease, you should wait until you’ve recovered.

Exactly how long you need to wait depends on your symptoms, but is generally around 10 days. Check the CDC website to make sure you meet the criteria for discontinuing isolation. People who had severe cases or who have a compromised immune system may need to wait up to 20 days and should talk to their doctors.

The CDC notes that if you received monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma over the course of your illness, you should wait 90 days to get vaccinated.

Regardless of your circumstances, check in with your doctor or another health care professional if you have any questions about getting or scheduling your vaccine.


jusr saying 2imptoving mebeee
 

We can learn from how the Howard Springs quarantine facility in the Northern Territory works when planning Victoria’s new hub. Glenn Campbell/AAP Image
This is how we should build and staff Victoria’s new quarantine facility, say two infection control experts
Philip Russo, Monash University; Brett Mitchell, University of Newcastle

We have the chance to build a world-class, dedicated quarantine facility. Here's how we could do it.


Cardinal George Pell preparing to make a statement at the Vatican in 2017. Gregoria Borgia/AP/AAP
Why have media outlets been fined more than $1 million for their Pell reporting?
Rick Sarre, University of South Australia

There is a clear legal reason why publications including The Age and news.com.au have copped hefty penalties.


Luis Ascui/AAP
Why are some COVID test results false positives, and how common are they?

welcome to our world.united,220 onwards

never the twain shal meet,apparently
go figure huh/duh
look,but cntribute,obviously no interest
perhaps,not important enough

your geeess
 
anyone notice theres been a covert hqappening in our former pristine world
been 2 years s9o far
an fyi



Hello Nature readers,
Today we explore the ancient megalake Paratethys, learn what six months of COVID vaccines have taught scientists and delve into the controversial ‘lab leak’ theory of the origin of SARS-CoV-2.


Rocks formed in the megalake are now cliffs overlooking the Black Sea in Cape Kaliakra, Bulgaria. (Panther Media GmbH/Alamy)
The largest lake the world has ever known
The megalake Paratethys once covered more than 2.8 million square kilometres, from the eastern Alps to what is now Kazakhstan. During its 5-million-year lifetime, the lake was home to many species found nowhere else, including miniature versions of whales, dolphins, and seals. As the Paratethys ebbed and grew saltier, the changes might have driven the ancestors of today’s giraffes and elephants to migrate towards the present-day African savannah. Eventually, erosion took its toll, and the megalake probably formed a spectacular waterfall as it drained into the Mediterranean Sea between 6.7 million and 6.9 million years ago.

Science | 5 min read
Reference: Scientific Reports paper & Communications Earth & Environment paper

COVID-19 coronavirus update

A campaign to vaccinate people against COVID-19 in Goma, Democratic Republic of the Congo, in May. (Guerchom Ndebo/Getty)
Feature
What we’ve learnt from 1.7 billion doses

At 6:30 a.m. on 8 December 2020, a 90-year-old British woman named Margaret Keenan became the first person to receive a COVID-19 vaccine as part of a mass vaccination effort. Now, more than 1.7 billion doses later, researchers are sifting through the data to address lingering questions about how well the vaccines work — and how they might shape the course of the coronavirus pandemic, which has already taken more than 3.5 million lives.

Nature | 15 min read



Essay
School outbreak offers cautionary tale

This month, science journalist Linda Geddes experienced a COVID-19 outbreak at her children’s primary school that ultimately infected her whole family. She warns that, even in the United Kingdom, where vaccines are plentiful, it’s too soon to get complacent. She explores the role of primary-age children in driving community transmission and the possibility that outbreaks in schools are an early sign that cases are going undetected in the wider community. “The virus is out there, passing from person to person, even if it looks like it is not. Even if we pretend it is on the brink of being over,” says Geddes.

The Guardian | 8 min read

Podcast
Uncertainty and the ‘lab leak’ theory

In this episode of Coronapod, Nature’s Noah Baker and Amy Maxmen delve into the idea that SARS-CoV-2 could have originated in a laboratory in China. They consider whether the way in which complex and nuanced science is communicated could be fuelling an increasingly fraught debate, and explore what the fallout might be for international collaboration.

Nature Coronapod Podcast | 16 min listen
Subscribe to the Nature Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts or Spotify.

Notable quotable
“I really hope that [mask wearing] becomes part of our culture and that we are more conscious of how even mild infections can potentially impact other people.”
US virologist Angela Rasmussen hopes that the considerate practice of wearing a face covering when you’re feeling ill — already commonplace in many regions — becomes a post-pandemic habit everywhere. (Scientific American | 4 min read)


Features & opinion
Mathematicians answer: will it crush?

Mathematicians have revealed the threshold at which certain shapes can be crushed without becoming creased or distorted. The work helps to explain a pioneering idea from Nobel-laureate John Nash: you can crumple a sphere down to a ball of any size, without tearing it or using crisp folds. (The key is to add infinitely many smooth twists to its surface and put it in a higher-dimensional space.) The new findings are an important step to understanding sharp transition points in a variety of systems, such as when a flow becomes turbulent.

Quanta | 11 min read
Reference: Advances in Mathematics paper & arXiv preprint

Quote of the day
“This is the very first time in our 77-year history of honouring animals that we will have presented a medal to a rat.”
A landmine-sniffing rat named Magawa is retiring after helping to clear more than 22 hectares in Cambodia. Magawa won an award from the People's Dispensary for Sick Animals, a veterinary charity, after finding 71 landmines and 38 items of unexploded ordnance. (NPR | 4 min read)
 
While antibody tests are useful for identifying prior infections among people who have had COVID-19 in the past, they can’t tell you much about your body’s immune response to the vaccine.
This seems rather a one sided explanation. Antibody levels only stay detectably positive for about 6 months. So if you had covid before that, this wont tell you. So it will under count people who have had covid and are already immune.

Someone posted a link to a Californian study of immunity. In their anaysis they chose to define zero immunity as the resut of a battery of tests they performed on subjects, where results showed negative specifically for antibody to covid capsid proteins. This implies they had not had any significant infection specifically by covid.

Unfortunately, these people still had some level of immunity to covid, the battery of tests showed their blood had various antibodies which were likey to be protective. Yet as I say in analysis they discounted this and called it zero.

So in this example, they did identify protective antibodies but deliberately ignored them.
 
But if vaccines work then it doesnt matter how many cases there are amongst young people. Or even old people. because the vaccine is supposed to make sure there are no severe cases. Mild cases dont matter at all, bring em on.

And if vaccines dont work... then we should never have locked down for a year waiting for them. There is no way out except to get natural infection over as fast as possible.
 
This seems rather a one sided explanation. Antibody levels only stay detectably positive for about 6 months. So if you had covid before that, this wont tell you. So it will under count people who have had covid and are already immune.

Someone posted a link to a Californian study of immunity. In their anaysis they chose to define zero immunity as the resut of a battery of tests they performed on subjects, where results showed negative specifically for antibody to covid capsid proteins. This implies they had not had any significant infection specifically by covid.

Unfortunately, these people still had some level of immunity to covid, the battery of tests showed their blood had various antibodies which were likey to be protective. Yet as I say in analysis they discounted this and called it zero.

So in this example, they did identify protective antibodies but deliberately ignored them.


your own thoughts perhaps one sided as well dands
no matter,do enjoy readng your contrbutions,nw
 
your own thoughts perhaps one sided as well dands
I think medics concluded a year ago doing antibody testing was not going to tell us how many people have had covid. In the UK there were government announcements that soon they would have an antibody test which would tell us who had had it. And then they said there were delays. And then they stopped talking about it.

Standard lab antibody tests are designed to tell if someone is fully protected from covid yes/no. They werent designed to tell if you have ever had it. They can be used to tell if you have low levels of antibody, which must imply you have been infected, but they are not considered reliable at low levels.

Even people showing no antibody within the sensitivity of the test may still be immune. Either because they have circulating t cells against covid, which arent detectable by mass testing, or because they have a stored capacity to produce antibody fast. Its normal to stop producing antibody after about 6 months if there is no new infection, but the capacity to do so is retained.
 

a dands/dandylike thought,this am
mebeee/usa,we do need to vacate the earth x 150 years,as proposed
a must watch


rbkwp
commandering yet another thread
because
many likely think its not important enuf to
duh/wtf
 
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Professor Tim Spector of the King's College covid tracking phone app has just released a new blog update of their findings.

On the one hand he reports an exponential growth of cases of the Indian variant. But on the other, that these are mostly amongst unvaccinated young people.

He also reports that symptoms these people are getting have changed, and they are now more like a bad cold. Spector has been following symptom from the start, and was the team which identified loss of taste and smell as the signature symptom for covid. But in these cases it is disappearing and is relegated to the 10th most likely symptom. Top are now headache, sore throat, runny nose and temperature.

ONS this spring tracked antibody levels in the population, including mongst the younger age groups who have not been vaccinated. These peaked at about 1/3 of non vaccinated people showing antibody to covid.

Anyone who had covid last spring would now be testing negative for antibody. It is not unreasonable therefore to add 1/3 this spring to another 1/3 last spring and reach a total around 2/3 now immune because of past infection. This might still be a low estimate because not everyone develops strong antibody response (t cell response has been shown to be stronger).

But it would explain why symptoms have changed. There are few cases at all amongst the people who have both had covid and a vaccination, not surprising. Earlier data suggested having both is more protective than either alone. But the people who are getting cases now are mostly those with natural immunity catching it a second time. And these are presenting as a cold.

Thats excellent news.

Spector also says modelling is still predicting more deaths. It is unfortunately really too early to tell because of the time delay before cases become deaths, so we await events. In the blog he doesnt explain whose modelling this is, or assumptions which went into it.

However all this looks to me as if covid is quite naturally becoming simply another corona cold virus. The normal cycle of repeat mild annual infections is establishing. And thats happening in the unvaccinated people, who therefore had no need of a vaccine.
 
Since November 2020 deaths excluding from covid have been below the 5 year average. So much so that about half the total of deaths recorded as due to covid since then would have been expected anyway from some other cause . Coronavirus (COVID-19) roundup - Office for National Statistics

Since March deaths from all causes have been running at below average.
 
cynicism abounds this am nz
think your pom g7 location fortuitous
ie
lets your 2 western lead3ers proclaim

'how great we art'

despite multiple balls-ups,esp deaths
not impressed by self professed bullshit


in other words
we,have defeated cv baaah bx2
 


quite interesting how that/the scandinavian counytrs,almost all of them,except perhaps finland,have been trying'thigs
often unsuccesfully
i think its the generations leaders,as they had such a freat positive outlook,in my traveking days,early 80s
my thoughts/observations anyway


in saying thay
nzs had short/sharp lockdowns,happened to work for us
ur/my beloved saustralia,still having them
victoria
4 lengthy lockdowns,800 ceaths,lasr year,geeeeeeeeess
 
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quite interesting how that/the scandinavian counytrs,almost all of them,except perhaps finland,have been trying things often unsuccesfully
Dont know about the others, but Sweden's policy led to fewer deaths than ours.

There seems to be a pattern all around the world that intervening less in covid resulted in fewer deaths.

There is a plausible reason why this would be so. People dying are not the average public, but people with some other illness or old age which makes them more susceptible. Those people isolate naturally, because they are ill and not so active, retired, off work. They are exactly the sort of people who are not reducing their contacts much through all the special measures, so no gain there for them. But the longer covid goes on for, the bigger their chance of being infected by bad luck contact. The more likely they will have to visit a hospital, which has been a huge source of infections, especially fatal ones.

I'm not talking about countries which wholly kept it out, they likely have a different situation. They are clustered around the pacific rim, and that cannot be a coincidence. Its because they had sars and mers in recent years. This will have created more immunity in their populations which made it harder for covid to establish. Western countries which tried to suppress covid simply failed. Not because they were incomptent at it, but because where it succeeded it was because people were immune aleady and the task was much easier. In the Uk we had less immunity, though still a lot. Most people have been safe from covid from the very start.

What was needed to safeguard high risk people was to get this all over quickly. But governments have set up policies to slow the spread of covid by interventions. These seem to have failed and people caught it anyway, but it took twice as long, maybe four times as long before outbreaks ended. Which then doubled or quadrupled the numbers if high risk exposed and dying during that time.

I have yet to see any real world evidence that wearing masks in public places has actually reduced deaths. The WHO has always said it is likely of marginal benefit, and may cause people to mistakenly believe they (and others) are safe if they wear a mask. Whereas its very obvious they are not. No hospital anywhwere managed to stop covid spreading by just wearing a mask.

It seems likely masks will reduce the amount of covid blown about a bit. The problem is, does tht make any real difference? People seriously ill with covid are the ones who were susceptible from the very start. If they get a slightly lower infecting dose it probably doesnt make any difference. It might make a difference if masks caused a big difference in the amount of infecting dose you get, but there is no evidence that they do. (indeed no evidence how much difference they really make at all).

But be of good cheer. King's phone app symptom study is reporting unvaccinated people are now only showing bad cold symptoms if they get covid.
 
2nd vaccination today
happy to conform
long time comming

not overly excited/not going to becoe all estatic over it
god/your,bles america/uk,for all the amazing work theyve boasted about
conveniently leaving ou the multiple deathsand balls ups
 
Hello

How's everyone doing ?

Hope you all are still alive, well I hope the nice ones amongst you are still anyway hahahaha

I was just curious to know who has and hasn't had their vaccination yet ?

Well at their their 1st shot at least
 
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