This Homophobic Gamer D'ont Want To See Any LGBT Characters In Video Games.

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This idiot thinks that only straight men are normal and masculine. Therefore any gay characters should not exist in video games. He is very problematic and many homophobic people agree with him. He is so close minded. He just doesnt get that diversity is important and everybody needs to be represented in video games, movies, comic books, ect... His straight privilege shows. Watch the video and you will see how fucked up, careless and egoistical this man is. Everything he says is so vile and wrong in so many ways. His hate for lgbt people is so obvious. He is full of shit and totally ruthless.

 
representation isn't the problem, awful character writting and design is,
and it has become the hallmark of the "woke" era of video games.

i'd be the first to say, beauty has many forms on top of being in the eyes of the beholder, but those characters aren't diversely cool/interesting looking, they're just plain ugly and always the same.

i'm a retro gamer, play games from the 8bits era all the way to today, and it can't even possibly be argued, this gen is the absolute worst there's ever been.

both in term of gameplay, game and character design, writting, and even basic coding, and the FAKE pandering only make it worst.

i've been friend online with a tgirl since the early world of war craft era, she mostly play RPG and was even a huge fan of Dragon Age Origin. so you'd think Dragon Age Veilguard was aimed square at her.

guess what ? she hated the game, for both the story and gameplay, the dialogs only made it worst.

i had the same experience with Cyberpunk 2077, made a big fuss about the fact you could play a trans character, was thrilled to roleplay as a bad ass trans hacker/ninja in a setting where it made perfect sense, would have made the relation with my girl Judy even more meaningfull and powerfull, ...

not a single line of dialog in the entire game was related to it ...

what i'm saying is, the same thing can both stick like a sore thumb or feel sorely lacking depending of the setting.

i assure you, make a great game, meaning great writting, gameplay, design, and not buggy, then add characters who are either cool, bad ass, relatable, cute, ... with relatable qualities and flaws, who just happen to be str8, or gay, or trans, acting in inspiring ways and i assure you nobody would care for one bit.

the issue with modern "diverse" characters, they are only defined by their sexuality and ALL have the same personality, awfully obnoxious ones at that :
they just can't possibly be more stereotypical, and have to obey to so many politicaly correct rules there's pretty much no stories to be told other than "white men bad".

Women aren't allowed to be feminine or have any type of character progression arc, POC are now weakling girl boss orbiters, LGBT characters have no flaws what so ever, ...

now as a (mostly) str8 white guy do i feel pissed to always be represented as the bad guy ? bet your a** i do, but tbh if i was anything else i would feel just as pissed by the current "representation" they're given.

where are the modern equivalent of Ripley ? Vasquez ? Sarah Connor ? you know, girls even the most chauvinistic guys wouldn't feel worthy of kissing the ground they walked on ?

Where are the new bad ass POC characters like Blade, Will Smith in Bad Boys 1/Men in Black, ... ?

when will we finaly be given is the LGBT equivalent of those characters BTW ?

and what make characters like Leonidas, Maximus, William Wallace and the like bad and evil again ?

all i'm saying is, everyone deserve to have inspiring characters, and more meaningfull ones than skin deep representation. hell, i don't even want to be represented, i want characters i can use as role models.
 
Reminds me of the racist Irish YouTuber, "Ranting Vengeance" or something like that.
He went on and on about black characters in superhero projects.
I stopped listening after 1 minute and went on with my day.
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Pay no attention to the peanut gallery. We're here, we're queer, we're not going anywhere unless you kill us all, and even then more will be born because it's the luck of the draw and not something any of us picked.

Also, write better characters. Enough fucking cookie-cutter stereotypes already. We're just like everyone else - a complete cross-section of the human tapestry. Use a little imagination!
 
He just doesnt get that diversity is important and everybody needs to be represented in video games, movies, comic books, ect... His straight privilege shows.

I played a lot of Donkey Kong. And those characters are not even human. You do not need to be represented that is just a pandering tool of the game industry.

But they did not think their ideology through. If you promote that representation is important and that you have to see yourself in video games. You say to your audience that you can only play games and identify with the characters when they have your exact identity. That is usually 1 or 2 people in the game and not even the main characters, depending how much identities are important for the advertisers.

And that is also true for straight people.

So this guy fall for the advertisement of the game industry that identity is important, but from another perspective.

So they basically digged their own grave, because they did not understand what social monster they created.
 
These guys make a few good points. I want to believe that any idea can work. It just depends on how it executed, but it feels like society has been moving backwards lately. Everything is criticized for being “woke”, which isn’t even what that word means but that’s a different point.
 
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representation isn't the problem, awful character writting and design is,
and it has become the hallmark of the "woke" era of video games.

i'd be the first to say, beauty has many forms on top of being in the eyes of the beholder, but those characters aren't diversely cool/interesting looking, they're just plain ugly and always the same.

i'm a retro gamer, play games from the 8bits era all the way to today, and it can't even possibly be argued, this gen is the absolute worst there's ever been.

both in term of gameplay, game and character design, writting, and even basic coding, and the FAKE pandering only make it worst.

i've been friend online with a tgirl since the early world of war craft era, she mostly play RPG and was even a huge fan of Dragon Age Origin. so you'd think Dragon Age Veilguard was aimed square at her.

guess what ? she hated the game, for both the story and gameplay, the dialogs only made it worst.

i had the same experience with Cyberpunk 2077, made a big fuss about the fact you could play a trans character, was thrilled to roleplay as a bad ass trans hacker/ninja in a setting where it made perfect sense, would have made the relation with my girl Judy even more meaningfull and powerfull, ...

not a single line of dialog in the entire game was related to it ...

what i'm saying is, the same thing can both stick like a sore thumb or feel sorely lacking depending of the setting.

i assure you, make a great game, meaning great writting, gameplay, design, and not buggy, then add characters who are either cool, bad ass, relatable, cute, ... with relatable qualities and flaws, who just happen to be str8, or gay, or trans, acting in inspiring ways and i assure you nobody would care for one bit.

the issue with modern "diverse" characters, they are only defined by their sexuality and ALL have the same personality, awfully obnoxious ones at that :
they just can't possibly be more stereotypical, and have to obey to so many politicaly correct rules there's pretty much no stories to be told other than "white men bad".

Women aren't allowed to be feminine or have any type of character progression arc, POC are now weakling girl boss orbiters, LGBT characters have no flaws what so ever, ...

now as a (mostly) str8 white guy do i feel pissed to always be represented as the bad guy ? bet your a** i do, but tbh if i was anything else i would feel just as pissed by the current "representation" they're given.

where are the modern equivalent of Ripley ? Vasquez ? Sarah Connor ? you know, girls even the most chauvinistic guys wouldn't feel worthy of kissing the ground they walked on ?

Where are the new bad ass POC characters like Blade, Will Smith in Bad Boys 1/Men in Black, ... ?

when will we finaly be given is the LGBT equivalent of those characters BTW ?

and what make characters like Leonidas, Maximus, William Wallace and the like bad and evil again ?

all i'm saying is, everyone deserve to have inspiring characters, and more meaningfull ones than skin deep representation. hell, i don't even want to be represented, i want characters i can use as role models.
I'm a huge dragon age fan, and generally like seeing more diverse representation in games, especially because I'm gay. I agree that the writing in Veilguard is pretty bad, especially in comparison to the earlier games in the series. However, I believe the poor writing is pretty independent of the game's gender and sexuality diversity, because prior entries in the series were equally diverse and didn't have this problem. However, straight people like this youtuber will cherrypick the game as an example of "wokeness making games bad," even though there are plenty of terrible games that only include straight characters, which are never regarded as "straightness making games bad."
 
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well let's be honest, too much wokeness is indeed a problem in current media and entertainement.
it's representation over any kind of substance or basic characters or story developement,
and it even goes much further than that now, they're clearly and openly hating their audience.

it's harming their cause and the people they supposedly want to represent more than anything else.

where was the backlash against the first Lara Croft with Angelina Jollee or Blade with Wesley Snipe 2 or 3 decades ago ?
fast forward to nowadays after 10 years of pushing the progressive message and representation,
and people have never been more divided and at each other throat.

hollywood is dead and we just witnessed the cremation, the western gaming industry is in shamble, every formerly inspiring and decades old succesfull franchises are dead... to archieve what ?

i'm sorry but from anywhere you might stand on the political isle, it clearly wasn't worth it for the result.
it's pretty clear that even with the best intentions, this road lead to hell in a handbasket.
blame either malice or hamfisted attempts, i let you decide, but here we are :/



in the case of Veilguard, i put the blame on EA/higher ups a Bioware far more than on corinne busche herself.

i also hate how some youtubers misgender her on purpose. especially when i can tell she didn't transitioned to follow the trend, on her pre transition picture she looked absolutly miserable,
and much more happy now.

another thing, she didn't attacked gamers even after the backlash, something that can't be said about most current devs, and for this, she defenetly have my respect.

i want to point out nobody was complaining about her when she was making The Sims extensions.
and i'll even argue, had she made a game not called dragon age, with the same intented message,
much better written and a more reasonable budget, ...
i think she would have got none of the backlash and perhaps even some praise.

i think what pissed people the most was the bait and switch, from a franchise that used to be early 2000's edgy to something "made for modern audience".

now let's be honest, how would people react if they started to include warhammer 40K grimdark level stuff into my little poney/cuddle bears ? it'd be just as shocking and insulting for the fans.

sure there's a handfull of assholes who go too far, but are people on average truelly transphobic ? no.
at best perhaps affraid of what they don't know, but it goes away pretty quick as soon as they realise they're just like them.

so i said it and i'll say it again, if they created truelly great and well written LGBT characters,
people would empathize with them just like they naturaly did with POC ones back in the days.
i garantee you.

what i want to say is, discrimination is the stuff people find the more they look for it, and as soon as the demand overtake the supply, they start to find it in any form of criticisms, even the smallest and most warranted ones.
 
well let's be honest, too much wokeness is indeed a problem in current media and entertainement.
it's representation over any kind of substance or basic characters or story developement,
and it even goes much further than that now, they're clearly and openly hating their audience.

it's harming their cause and the people they supposedly want to represent more than anything else.

where was the backlash against the first Lara Croft with Angelina Jollee or Blade with Wesley Snipe 2 or 3 decades ago ?
fast forward to nowadays after 10 years of pushing the progressive message and representation,
and people have never been more divided and at each other throat.

hollywood is dead and we just witnessed the cremation, the western gaming industry is in shamble, every formerly inspiring and decades old succesfull franchises are dead... to archieve what ?

i'm sorry but from anywhere you might stand on the political isle, it clearly wasn't worth it for the result.
it's pretty clear that even with the best intentions, this road lead to hell in a handbasket.
blame either malice or hamfisted attempts, i let you decide, but here we are :/



in the case of Veilguard, i put the blame on EA/higher ups a Bioware far more than on corinne busche herself.

i also hate how some youtubers misgender her on purpose. especially when i can tell she didn't transitioned to follow the trend, on her pre transition picture she looked absolutly miserable,
and much more happy now.

another thing, she didn't attacked gamers even after the backlash, something that can't be said about most current devs, and for this, she defenetly have my respect.

i want to point out nobody was complaining about her when she was making The Sims extensions.
and i'll even argue, had she made a game not called dragon age, with the same intented message,
much better written and a more reasonable budget, ...
i think she would have got none of the backlash and perhaps even some praise.

i think what pissed people the most was the bait and switch, from a franchise that used to be early 2000's edgy to something "made for modern audience".

now let's be honest, how would people react if they started to include warhammer 40K grimdark level stuff into my little poney/cuddle bears ? it'd be just as shocking and insulting for the fans.

sure there's a handfull of assholes who go too far, but are people on average truelly transphobic ? no.
at best perhaps affraid of what they don't know, but it goes away pretty quick as soon as they realise they're just like them.

so i said it and i'll say it again, if they created truelly great and well written LGBT characters,
people would empathize with them just like they naturaly did with POC ones back in the days.
i garantee you.

what i want to say is, discrimination is the stuff people find the more they look for it, and as soon as the demand overtake the supply, they start to find it in any form of criticisms, even the smallest and most warranted ones.
Wokeness is a dog whistle coming from non-Black folks since the word has been co-opted and changed to fit anti-Black agendas.

The problem before the bastardization of wokeness was that everyone who played video games was forced to see themselves in—and interact as—straight, white men. There was no issue because the perspective of straight white men had always centered and everyone else was just expected to suspend disbelief, shut up, and play the game.

And now that other stories are being told—other perspectives explored—it's wokeness??

Sometimes, I just think it would be better to admit to racism and white supremacy than to perform all of these mental gymnastics. For decades, we've been told that only straight, white men deserve their stories to be told. And we did that.

But this refusal to acknowledge other perspectives and existences speak to the fragility and insecurity of white supremacy, especially that of the straight, white male. I know due to years of occupation and genocide, people have been forced to abide by eurocentric gender ideologies, but those gender ideologies are NOT the normal state of the world, no matter how much Abrahamic religions shove them down your throat.

This anti-Wokeness moment—just like every other counter movement to progress in history—is just an excuse for white boys to claim replacement theory is working. It's weak. And y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. But you've positioned yourselves in the world to not feel shame, or be held accountable. So. Fat chance.
 
Wokeness is a dog whistle coming from non-Black folks since the word has been co-opted and changed to fit anti-Black agendas.

The problem before the bastardization of wokeness was that everyone who played video games was forced to see themselves in—and interact as—straight, white men. There was no issue because the perspective of straight white men had always centered and everyone else was just expected to suspend disbelief, shut up, and play the game.

And now that other stories are being told—other perspectives explored—it's wokeness??

Sometimes, I just think it would be better to admit to racism and white supremacy than to perform all of these mental gymnastics. For decades, we've been told that only straight, white men deserve their stories to be told. And we did that.

But this refusal to acknowledge other perspectives and existences speak to the fragility and insecurity of white supremacy, especially that of the straight, white male. I know due to years of occupation and genocide, people have been forced to abide by eurocentric gender ideologies, but those gender ideologies are NOT the normal state of the world, no matter how much Abrahamic religions shove them down your throat.

This anti-Wokeness moment—just like every other counter movement to progress in history—is just an excuse for white boys to claim replacement theory is working. It's weak. And y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. But you've positioned yourselves in the world to not feel shame, or be held accountable. So. Fat chance.
You said it all. Nailed it.
 
Wokeness is a dog whistle coming from non-Black folks since the word has been co-opted and changed to fit anti-Black agendas.

The problem before the bastardization of wokeness was that everyone who played video games was forced to see themselves in—and interact as—straight, white men. There was no issue because the perspective of straight white men had always centered and everyone else was just expected to suspend disbelief, shut up, and play the game.

And now that other stories are being told—other perspectives explored—it's wokeness??

Sometimes, I just think it would be better to admit to racism and white supremacy than to perform all of these mental gymnastics. For decades, we've been told that only straight, white men deserve their stories to be told. And we did that.

But this refusal to acknowledge other perspectives and existences speak to the fragility and insecurity of white supremacy, especially that of the straight, white male. I know due to years of occupation and genocide, people have been forced to abide by eurocentric gender ideologies, but those gender ideologies are NOT the normal state of the world, no matter how much Abrahamic religions shove them down your throat.

This anti-Wokeness moment—just like every other counter movement to progress in history—is just an excuse for white boys to claim replacement theory is working. It's weak. And y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. But you've positioned yourselves in the world to not feel shame, or be held accountable. So. Fat chance.
oh, so i guess you missed the success of Richard Prior, Denzel Washington, Samuel L. Jackson, Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, Danny Glover, Forest Withaker, Wesley Snipe...

all of them lead block busters movies prior to wokeness :x nobody ever complained.

gay representation perhaps ?
the tv show Queer as Folk was made in 2000, was so succesfull it had both a english and a US version.
want older ? The Bird Cage, was a theatre piece, then it was turned into a movie in france, which had 2 sequels, and then a US adaptation.

also, how are "other perspective" being explored, when every woke movies is nothing but tropes, very often even blatantly actually racist ones ?

the games Forsaken and South of Midnight both star a black females, alright no problems,
but then both have absent fathers, and the first one is a criminal who rob money to buy sneakers...
ahem... i mean come on already ...

it's to a point we can now predict entire movies and tv shows from the casting alone ...
how is that art rather than propaganda being hammered over and over and over again ?

the problem is not, and tbh has never been, representation of Poc or lgbt,
the problem is that big corpo are using fake representation to push crappy games and movies,
with horribly written characters and stories, full of tropes, bugs, and freeware level gameplay.
and worst yet, like i said just OOZING with hatred for anyone that isn't part of their group.

and sorry, it's not payback, as this kind of hatred hasn't been seen by any POC or LGBT in the west for if not centuries, at least 5 or 6 decades, needless to say more than any of the people complaining the loudest about it ever experienced themselves.

hatred is bullshit no matter which way it goes, and a smart man once said "an eye for an eye and the entire world will soon be blind", if racism and phobia was horrible back then, it is still today.

the truth is, wokeness isn't failing cause people are horrible german national socialists from the 40's,
it's because the vast majority of people know full well they're not istophobes but are able to judge people on the quality of their character and so aren't falling for the self hatred chtick anymore.
 
I'm a huge dragon age fan, and generally like seeing more diverse representation in games, especially because I'm gay. I agree that the writing in Veilguard is pretty bad, especially in comparison to the earlier games in the series. However, I believe the poor writing is pretty independent of the game's gender and sexuality diversity, because prior entries in the series were equally diverse and didn't have this problem. However, straight people like this youtuber will cherrypick the game as an example of "wokeness making games bad," even though there are plenty of terrible games that only include straight characters, which are never regarded as "straightness making games bad."
minus a few rage grifters, most of the complains are about the quality of the games/movies rather than anyone having problem with the characters skin color, sex or orientation.

what piss people the most is seeing their beloved franchises getting hijacked and turned into what they weren't to begin with.
the worst part, it hardly ever gain any new fans, and pretty much always alienate the base one.

gatekeeping in nerdom is a myth, there's nobody more welcoming than borderline autistic people when you show some interest in their hobby.

leave the opportunity to a WH40K fan to explain to you the horus heresy or a star wars fan to explain to you why dark vader is a tragic character rather than a vilain and you'll know what i'm talking about.

but at the same time, you don't enter a house someone else lovingly built and decorated for years,
their safe spaces some might say,
to get in their faces and tell them it's crap and need to be destroyed and rebuilt from the top down,
or else don't expect them to show you any kind of respect in return neither.

True diversity doesn't mean everything have to be for everyone, it mean there's something for everyone.
or else it turn into what we have now, tasteless slop no one even care about.

and again, that's why hollywood and the western gaming industry is dying, cause everyone is starting to feel insulted to be lectured for no reasons.

and let's be honest, no gamepass slop level games will ever change the mind of the very few true racist,
and anyone who is not will only see the gameplay and writing for what it is, mediocre at best.
the skin color, sex or orientation of the protagonist is completly irrelevant in the equation.

on the other hand, if only they made characters on the level of a Ripley or a Maximus,
show them having qualities that are universaly recognized as respectable,
people will still champion them for decades, and their difference and special traits will only make them even more bad ass.

what make Ripley so inspiring isn't the fact she acted like a space marine by gunning down aliens,
it's the fact she acted like a mother by not even thinking twice about rushing a freakin' xeno nest to save a girl who was most likely already dead.
and that's precisely for that difference "chuds" are still worshipping her almost 40 years and 2 crappy movies/franchises later ...

but let's just say, i wouldn't expect it to come from the current western entertainement industry...
 
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