19-year-old man taken to jail for singing rap song

member006

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I don't see where that was a wrong move to arrest him. At 19 he should of known better. A decent adult would have taken the children in consideration and not sang the song if they could hear it. I mean some things should just be common sense. *shakes head*

I once took down the tag and reported a man that had a Barbie and Ken doll naked in a compromising postion in the rear widow of his car and a sign that read "Sex is good". Why did he not even CONSIDER that children would see that? I had to answer a million questions that day. grrrrrr

LL
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
So, next time this officer or any other officer hears foul language from a minor they will be taken to juvenile?
I doubt it. He had no reason to take him to jail.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
When I was a teenager, I and a buddy of mine got arrested for "hurling obscenities" in public. We were actually just dropping a shitload of f-bombs during a conversation in public and somebody called the cops and we got arrested and taken to the police station. My Dad was not a happy camper when he came to get me. Many communities have "decency" laws against such language in public.
 
An example of police without much real crime to deal with.In NYC a cop would simply tell the kid to stifle himself and be done with it.
 

tartanterrier

Is somewhere outhere.
I guess your pretty fucked in fucking Florida for having fucking Tourettes.

Does that mean if you swear in front of Mickey Mouse at Disney World you'd get thrown in the slammer :D
 

om3ga

It's good to be the king...

FAH-Q

Banned
kids hear worse on tv. whats the problem in this here case? probably a woman with ties to the right people had him arrested.
 
I agree he should have been arrested or at least handed a ticket, as long as public profanity is indeed against the law in this town. I think it's a shame that this young man couldn't show a shred of decency, respect or common sense around children. If he had, this whole mess wouldn't have happened.
 
Holder told deputies he did nothing wrong and was actually singing the words to a song by rapper Lil' Boosie.

He even told deputies that “he did not believe children needed to hear [that kind of] language,” the report says.

Maybe I'm just too tired, but does that actually make sense to anyone? :helpme:
 
(No, Becks, that doesn't seem to make much sense to me, either. So, he admits he was rapping the f-word, said he did nothing wrong, knew that kids were within earshot of him when he did it, AND he said that kids shouldn't hear that kind of language??? I typically connect "shouldn't" behavior with "wrong" !)

Well, I'm not inclined to say that the arrest strikes me as appropriate, but I gotta say that I do get annoyed at how incredibly crass some people can be in public. None of this is to say that I'm not aroused at the notion of say, public sex, but even then, a BIG part of the allure of that is the idea that it's so subversive and I acknowledge that it's wrong. In a world where children and adults live together, I don't think it's a good idea for kids to confront that, and EVEN IF we had some bizarre segregation between adults and kids, I personally wouldn't really want public sex to be allowed, as in most cases it would either make me want to vomit, or in a few cases, just make me jealous of the lucky guy. Anyway......

As for people speaking in public and dropping "the f-bomb" well, I can't say I'm shocked or even appalled when I hear it, but I am annoyed most of all by how it indicates - to me at least - just how inconsiderate and discourteous people can be. Loudly uttering "fuck" in public, in a non-extreme situation (such as a fight, a rare fight w/ someone else that must happen right then & there) just says to me that the person uttering it really doesn't care about other people's sensibilities AT ALL, and is just supremely narrow-minded and selfish in how they interpret the idea of living in "a free country" (apparently the prime benefit being able to say "fuck" anywhere at any time for no particular reason).

Yes, yes, I have uttered "fuck" in public before, with both friends and my wife. But I KEPT MY VOICE DOWN in nearly every case. As with most stuff, I don't presume that the rest of the public really wants to hear what I have to say, esp. when I'm frustrated or bickering with someone over something.

And I say this being well aware of how lame opportunists of every stripe (but, I gotta say it, most egregiously the Republicans) love to trot out their moral concerns with the "What about the children?" plea attached to them. I also say this fully aware that some people truly can be offended by just about anything, which presents a real problem for those of us who wish to enjoy freedom but also don't feel that public spaces are an extension of my home. Wear a Def Leppard t-shirt of the most benign sort and SOMEONE will probably take offense (for whatever irrational "reason") and wish to have you arrested.

That is why I tend to think that, on these matters, making and enforcing these kinds of LAWS are not really the ticket. What is called for is a public ethos of personal restraint.

Another example that bugs me considerably more. People watching porn on portable DVD players and watching it in public. I've never personally witnessed it, but have heard of incidents. What I HAVE seen is someone playing porn on the TV/DVD player in their vehicle, windows down, volume up (not extremely loud, but loud enough). Hey, I like porn as much as anyone, but seriously, come on. If someone is next to them in traffic and their kid is sitting with them, they could watch everything.

Kids should have to take great efforts to see porn. It shouldn't just be out and about in public for them to see, right?

And this ties in with my desire to see sex shops exist in a very low-key way. Yes, people in the rural "heartland" of America should be able to go to a sex shop w/o driving 300 miles, but also, their kids shouldn't have to walk past (or otherwise "deal with" - fellas, ya know what I mean) a billboard with Chasey Lain shoving her ass up in the air in a thong as part of an ad billboard for the place.

I guess I'm just in favor of a more clear demarcation between The World of Kids and The World of Adults. When kids think of the World of Adults, it should be a lot more sophisticated than simply "fucking" - Kids figure that sex stuff out on their own (and with some help from parents/guardians, hopefully), but it needn't be pushed into their lives. So, that's my rant.... Any thoughts?

(Having said all that, rememeber, I'm not really in favor of that kid being arrested for dirty rapping)
 

member006

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When I was a teenager, I and a buddy of mine got arrested for "hurling obscenities" in public. We were actually just dropping a shitload of f-bombs during a conversation in public and somebody called the cops and we got arrested and taken to the police station. My Dad was not a happy camper when he came to get me. Many communities have "decency" laws against such language in public.

Exactly and many states and/cities even have laws against even spitting on the street, not enforced for the most part but a law none the less.


(Having said all that, rememeber, I'm not really in favor of that kid being arrested for dirty rapping)

I feel that 19 is not a kid sorry. :( At that age they scream "I'm an adult." so I classify them as such. I say then act like one and accept the consequences for your actions when you don't. :dunno:

Bottom line? He was old enough to know its not right to say such things in front of small children.

LL
 
The officer had to respond to the complaint from the member of the public. Should she have made the complaint? Yes as she took offensive to his bad language, should he have been charged? Debateable but for me no, as the comments were not directed at anyone in particuler.
 
The officer had to respond to the complaint from the member of the public. Should she have made the complaint? Yes as she took offensive to his bad language, should he have been charged? Debateable but for me no, as the comments were not directed at anyone in particuler.

Yeah, good point - the kid wasn't verbally abusing anyone, at least intentionally.

It seems that cops almost anywhere should have better, and more pressing/urgent, things to do with their time than to issue citations like this one...
 
I think that there is a time and a place for all behaviors, and sometimes it is inappropriate for someone to curse in public, regardless if the words rhyme.

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